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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:37 pm 
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Sal Paradise wrote:So Peter Mandelson was not given a peerage and back into cabinet - that after he was given a cushy EU job - or has that slipped you memory?


Nope - so was Andrew Adonis, and it was wrong then too.

You really do rely very heavily on the tactic of whataboutery - it's an entirely reductive way to conduct an argument.


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 Post subject: Re: Boris Johnson - spinless leader ?
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IR80 wrote:where is the economy flat lining, it seems pretty buoyant to me, not growing as fast as it was, but still growing. Can you explain how it would have been so much better under Comrade Corbyn?


The ecconomy grew by 0.3% in Q3 nd contracted 0.2% in Q2 of 2019, therefore overall growth in the UK ecconomy, over the last 6 months is a MIGHTY 0.1% - Is that Buoyant ?

Taking account of inflation, consumption is down and we are actually in reverse.

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wrencat1873 wrote:The ecconomy grew by 0.3% in Q3 nd contracted 0.2% in Q2 of 2019, therefore overall growth in the UK ecconomy, over the last 6 months is a MIGHTY 0.1% - Is that Buoyant ?

Taking account of inflation, consumption is down and we are actually in reverse.

any growth os good, certainly better than the recession caused by Labour.

Let's be homest, we're never going to agree, other than that Boris was the best of two pretty awful options. Brexit won the GE, people voted to get their voice heard again, it is how democracy works. (I voted remain in the referendum, remember)

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IR80 wrote:certainly better than the recession caused by Labour.

I didn't realise the UK government's influence stretched across the globe.






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Khlav Kalash wrote:I didn't realise the UK government's influence stretched across the globe.

and I never realised there were so many sad posters named atfer Simpsons characters.

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IR80 wrote:and I never realised there were so many sad posters named atfer Simpsons characters.

Keep deflecting. Anyhow snowflake, about Clare Balding?






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Khlav Kalash wrote:Keep deflecting. Anyhow snowflake, about Clare Balding?

Sad and a little pathetic. "Snowflake", hilarious.

As for Ms Balding, different thread, different topic.

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IR80 wrote:any growth os good, certainly better than the recession caused by Labour.

Let's be homest, we're never going to agree, other than that Boris was the best of two pretty awful options. Brexit won the GE, people voted to get their voice heard again, it is how democracy works. (I voted remain in the referendum, remember)


Just as an aside, how do you equate voting remain with voting for Johnson?
This isn't a dig by the way.






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IR80 wrote:Sad and a little pathetic. "Snowflake", hilarious.

As for Ms Balding, different thread, different topic.

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Still deflecting. How did Labour cause the global financial crisis?






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Ovavoo wrote:Just as an aside, how do you equate voting remain with voting for Johnson?
This isn't a dig by the way.


I voted remain in 2016, the country voted leave - I went with the democratic choice in 2019, whether I agree or not it’s what the country wanted






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