Checking this thread's progress is now one of the highlights of my day.

Please tell me that photo with his descriptions written on weren't the "proof". No don't I prefer it if it was!


Me too Wheels! It's like car-crash TV! The Butchers note that Stan thinks the ISS is a hologram is hilarious. Is that his genuine opinion?

Certainly is.

I'm sure he'll be along to let you know why soon enough. If you've got a sado-masochist streak you could search back over the couple of large threads that contain his ramblings to see it for yourself.

Before anyone else wants to chip into these threads, I recommend printing a copy of this for your pleasure and enjoyment...

This is not a reply, I am just quoting Stan's rambling random keypresses for amusement. Talk about losing the plot! There's nothing to add, really, he was bad from the start, but has now become a caricature.

I am reviewing my former position on not playing chess with pigeons.

All the TV aerials point in different directions depending on where you are in the country.

All the sky dishes all point towards the same thing and its not Trafford.

LIAR! All Sky dishes there point to the same place in the sky as all Sky dishes in the rest of the UK!

You do tell some absolute corkers!


Sadly, history records that the government switched off the last analogue TV signal on 23 October 2012. It just did. This is a simple and uncontroversial fact.

The reason many upgraded their aerials when the original switchover happened was simply because the original digital signal were transmitted at reduced power, precisely so as to not interfere too much withe analogue signals. Nobody said you had to get a new aerial (well, scaremongering vendors and salesmen excepted) - if you were in a good signal area, you certainly wouldn't. But due to the reduced power initial broadcasts, some people did have to, to get decent reception. Again, all simple historical fact.


In your head it probably does, but sadly in real life the digital terrestrial broadcasts work by what's called multiplexing, so that instead of one channel, one station, they could squeeze multiple channels into a single UHF slot. This meant instead of the 5 analogue channels we had, suddenly we moved to (initially) 6 Digital Terrestrial multiplexes. Each one could carry maybe 8 broadcasts, and those comprised the initial 50 or so Freeview channels.

Simples, as you like to say. Fact, as it is.

The analogue TV broadcasts really do not exist any more, and for basic simple reasons, could not carry the number of channels you can get from your terrestrial aerial, so that is proof enough. (Well, no proof at all for you, obviously, but I don't count you).

Both the old analogue and the current digital terrestrial broadcast in UHF that is, 470-890 MHz
Here's a list of some of the main microwave band allocations. Sadly, these are the only frequencies that the satellites work, not UHF, and you need a line of sight and a suitably aligned dish. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the electromagnetic spectrum is a very crowded, and highly regulated and policed, place an there is no room for any mystery or secret signals like the ones you claim magically enter your Sky dish. It's all just in your head.


If these band allocations aren't to your liking, see the government, not me -I'm just quoting them. I am not in charge of allocations!

But aren't the actual facts tiresome, eh?

It's a lifestyle choice ....
Why live in a boring world full of Science and facts, when you can live in an exciting world full of comic book heroes, mystery and intrigue.
It's an easy choice and it's what so many 'smart people' are choosing to do.

Eventually we will all be smart, even me.
Well perhaps not me ....

If anyone needs to see a prophetic bit of cinema, check out Idiocracy.

It seems that in a lot of cases modern technology and knowledge, rather than make a lot of people smarter and more aware, is actually making them dumber. It doesn't help that a certain section of American culture wears its ignorance as a badge of honour, including their politicians. That culture drip feeds into the rest of western society. The internet is a great tool to increase your knowledge but most people use it to watch porn and cat videos. It also gives the nutters that used to argue with the bushes at bus stops a place to gather, share, and reinforce their wild fantasies.

It's a strange world.

The flat man wouldn't answer what conspiracy theorists did before the internet, obviously, so I had a look over a few articles. The following quotes sum up the whole charade perfectly.