JerryChicken wrote:You're hurting aren't you ?

I'm sure you'd like to think so.
I'm equally sure that there is a large element of the Yorkshite population who think that it's nothing to do with training methods implemented by non Yorkshitters, or training in other counties.
No, you keep on telling yourselves how good you are, and then maybe you will one day get over having your ar$es kicked in the Wars of the Roses. By a much, much smaller county.
We're no upset, we're laughing at you.