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rover49 wrote:... The other day on 5 Live the discussion was about doctors not referring to people as 'fat' as it was insulting, there was even some women on saying how she felt persecuted if her doctor commented on her weight or diet when she was visiting over something she deemed non-weight related (Invariably weight has a lot to do with other ailments). I am 19' 12" and it is NOT muscle, I know its because I eat too much and don't excersize enough, I also know it is all my own fault and if my doctor has a go at me I don't feel insulted or curl up in a all and cry because I am offended. I either change my lifestyle or suffer the consequences.
This is an interesting one – and a little different, I think.
There is a rise in the number of people who 'think' that they have a right to comment on someone else's weight – invariably in an "I'm perfect" manner, which also involves them not having a clue about the individual and making a serious of assumptions. I recall a poster here saying that he was shopping one day and a woman felt that she could walk up to him and tell him to pick a low-fat brand of the product that he was considering at the time.
Personally, it's not the word per se, but that assumption – which I've had from doctors myself. And frankly, it's medically lazy as well as anything else. And that same personal experience also means that I do not unquestioningly trust doctors.
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carl_spackler wrote:Context seems to be an insignificant factor these days, it really is a nonsense.
Had Townsend been white, the comment/joke would have been just as valid and Hodgson would probably have been just as likely to use it, but we'd have none of this. It's like the line about people asking to speak to the organ grinder rather than the monkey; do we now have to consider the ethnicity of the people in question first, or do we even have to go the whole hog and resign the phrase to the scrapheap entirely?
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carl_spackler wrote:Context seems to be an insignificant factor these days, it really is a nonsense.
Had Townsend been white, the comment/joke would have been just as valid and Hodgson would probably have been just as likely to use it, but we'd have none of this. It's like the line about people asking to speak to the organ grinder rather than the monkey; do we now have to consider the ethnicity of the people in question first, or do we even have to go the whole hog and resign the phrase to the scrapheap entirely?
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JerryChicken wrote:I'd imagine most of it would be leg bones but that is a hell of a size, could you come around and paint the gutters on my house for me, I hate going up ladders.
Its wht I should be for my weight !!
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However, another campaign group has sent a formal complaint to the FA in which it calls for an independent investigation into the issue.
In the four-page complaint, Race for Sport, an off-shoot of the Society for Black Lawyers, says the decision to consider the matter closed is "unacceptable". It also demands "cultural intelligence" training for Hodgson and all football managers
However, another campaign group has sent a formal complaint to the FA in which it calls for an independent investigation into the issue.
In the four-page complaint, Race for Sport, an off-shoot of the Society for Black Lawyers, says the decision to consider the matter closed is "unacceptable". It also demands "cultural intelligence" training for Hodgson and all football managers
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