Chris28 wrote:Clegg accusing the Tories of breaking the contract http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19149212 Will he and his boys walk away now? They hold the balance of power and walking away could be seen as them doing what they should have been doing from day 1, holding back the excesses of the Tories. Personally I think, as I always have done, that Clegg et al like the trappings of power too much to leave, so they'll stick it out and moan till the election. What excesses? You need to specify. In any case aren't the 'Tories' spearheading an austerity policy?

Chris28 wrote:Clegg accusing the Tories of breaking the contract http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19149212 Will he and his boys walk away now? They hold the balance of power and walking away could be seen as them doing what they should have been doing from day 1, holding back the excesses of the Tories. Personally I think, as I always have done, that Clegg et al like the trappings of power too much to leave, so they'll stick it out and moan till the election. What excesses? You need to specify. In any case aren't the 'Tories' spearheading an austerity policy?

There are all kinds of excesses, in the Tories case its an excess of cruelty and indifference to those who HAVE to do the suffering to pay for the obscene other 'excesses' of the bankers (mostly Tories and mates of Dave and Gideon).

Have you been living in a cave since May 2010?

What about the sell-off of the NHS?

What about the reduction in Working Tax Credits?

What about the reductions and restrictions on Housing Benefits (most of which is paid to those in work)

The re-assessment of DLA?

All aimed squarely at the most vulnerable in society, as is typical of any tory, ideologically-driven agenda.

This bunch are spending and borrowing more than Labour ever did. June saw the largest trade deficit since records began.

It's all Labour's fault - keep repeating the mantra

Clegg screwed it all up in the deal-making between the election and forming a government.

He had the whip-hand and could have held-out for an agreement where the LibDems would abstain on some tory policies in return for for which the tories could have agreed to abstain on some LibDem policies.
Instead he agreed to a 180 degree turn on policies against which he had been campaigning (the economy, student loans etc) and ended-up being wheeled out in front of the cameras to defend policy he had vehemently fought against in the election run-up.

For a guy who supposedly wanted a more proportional government, he was totally out of his depth when it came down to the sort of negotiations that would occur much more often under PR ... and, in the process, has scuppered several of the main aims of his party and the electability of several of his MPs for years to come ... and there's nowt he can do about it except sit and watch his party sink.

The worst LibDem leader for many a decade ... and that is saying something.

I think he meant all of them.


Yes, and delaying any recovery by about a decade.

I completely agree and this is what was behind my comment about the Lib Dems halting the NHS legislation not breaking the agreement. I don't believe they would have ever agreed to it had they known the detail but they were never going to find out what Lansey was up to in a couple of weeks when there were all the other policies to be agreed on.

Once they did find out about it instead of wheeling out Shirley Williams to try and convince people it really was OK and the words in the amended legislation were good enough for them to accept they should have just stopped it dead. Alas they seemed more interested in working out a way to accept the NHS legislation so the coalition would hold so they could push their policies rather than doing the right thing and kicking it into touch.

Now they have lost another key bit of Lid Dem legislation it looks like they have finally spat the dummy out but it is too late.

In general I think this government has rushed through much ill thought out legislation (hence so many U turns) and the fact the original coalition agreement was cobbled together in a mere two weeks should have been a warning that thinking things through first wasn't going to be a strong point of this lot, Tory or Lib Dem.

I loved Simon Hughes's response when Eddie Mair accused the LimpDems of being childish: "well they started it"

I think the point is Tories have not made much headway on improving the public finances despite these cuts and reductions in services because they have sent us back into recession.

So because there isn't much movement on improving the public finances and reducing the budget deficit, their supporters say "well there hasn't even been any austerity yet".

Hahahaha

Are you for real? They would have to go a long long way to even get close to Labours record for wasting money.

Brown's selling of our Gold reserves anyone?

Or maybe creating 30k jobs for "Overseer of equal opportunities when looking at purchasing of pens".

The record of Labour is truly shocking.


Are you actually blaming the present government for the Trade Deficit? Can you elaborate please?

It's got nothing at all to do with the Eurozone self combusting I guess?

Nothing at all to do with consumers in the UK buying more foreign goods?

I criticise the Tories where they deserve it (and praise where they deserve it), but your constant blinkered left wing position is either amusing or very sad.

It's quite simple.

Labour overspent. They effectively ran up an unprecidented "credit card bill".

The only sensible thing to do is to pay off this credit card bill. That unfortunately means pain.

I find it very amusing to hear Labour giving economic advice on "how fast" to cut the bill, considering they were the ones who created it! It's a bit like a compulsive gambler giving advice on how to be prudent with money.