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 Post subject: Re: Gary Speed R.I.P
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:09 pm 
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Such a sad moment. Been down to Elland Road to lay down one of shirts for one of my all time heroes, and all round great guy. Looked to be doing great things at Wales. Shocked.

RIP Gary.

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 Post subject: Re: Gary Speed R.I.P
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:01 pm 
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morleys_deckchair wrote:terrible news.... apparently the press were about to release a damaging story about him.


Is this true? Where have you heard this? PM me if you don't want to say in the thread.

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 Post subject: Re: Gary Speed R.I.P
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:12 pm 
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Mintball wrote:A lot I agree with in this – although I would point out that the "state of mind" of the RL community didn't prevent Terry Newton taking his own life, so I don't think it's necessarily that simple.


I thought the campaign came after Terrys death.







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 Post subject: Re: Gary Speed R.I.P
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:31 pm 
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Exactly. Brian Carney was a major mover in the campaign because of the loss of his mate.

In one of Robbie Savages interviews he said that Speed was alwaye there to help others, why coudn't he have just spoken to someone himself.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:34 pm 
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It did.

Was so shocked to hear the news this morning. Cannot imagine how desperate he would have to feel. His poor family.






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 Post subject: Re: Gary Speed R.I.P
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Sadfish wrote:I thought the campaign came after Terrys death.


Indeed. But in other words, it took a tragic loss of life to create a campaign.

That's not a criticism a all, BTW, but it suggests a traumatic path that requires a tragedy to trigger it.






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Marcus Notsquare wrote:In one of Robbie Savages interviews he said that Speed was alwaye there to help other, why coudn't he have just spoken to someone himself.


Suicide doesn't just happen to people who know they have issues though. A women in my work lost her mother to suicide this year, she was happy as larry, had just seen the Grandchild she'd always wanted born and was really looking forward to a family holiday that she'd planned. One day she just stepped over the side of the motorway bridge she crossed almost daily, no one could believe it.

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 Post subject: Re: Gary Speed R.I.P
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:46 pm 
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Mintball wrote:Indeed. But in other words, it took a tragic loss of life to create a campaign.

That's not a criticism a all, BTW, but it suggests a traumatic path that requires a tragedy to trigger it.


Absolutely.







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Saddened! wrote:Suicide doesn't just happen to people who know they have issues though. A women in my work lost her mother to suicide this year, she was happy as larry, had just seen the Grandchild she'd always wanted born and was really looking forward to a family holiday that she'd planned. One day she just stepped over the side of the motorway bridge she crossed almost daily, no one could believe it.


SRI's can develop unchecked over years either by the person or their friends, then suddenly a trigger will set it all off, and within 10 mins the person has hung themselves at worst or broken down to someone they know etc...

Sadly it seems the more high profile a person is the more likely they don't confide in anyone.







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 Post subject: Re: Gary Speed R.I.P
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:44 pm 
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Anyone who hasn't seen it, have a look at the article Stan Collymore wrote on his twitter about depression. It really brings it home and it is very poignant considering it was written yesterday.






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