Cronus wrote:And the rest were little angels, were they? As an example you could do with looking at some of the stuff Jess Phillips has come out with, for example - you know, the Jess Phillips who tried to preach about divisive language in Parliament and got slapped down. They're all at it. The young left in particular on our TV screens are vile - Owen Jones and a couple of females who pop up on TV from time to time (I forget their names, one is Asian). Nothing but hatred spews from their mouths.

I get it, they're angry. They just keep losing and simply cannot grasp why everyone doesn't agree with them. Nor can they accept it. If someone disagrees they must be silenced - hence the rise of 'no-platforming'. Reasoned debate is an alien concept.

As a Leaver and Tory voter (at present, I haven't always been) I've had no end of abuse on here and to my face. Racist, xenophobe, nazi, etc, etc yaawwwn. Leavers have had every insult under the sun since 2016, and Tory voters have had it and more. Why do you think the 'quiet Tory' is even a thing?

I'm a big boy, I can handle it and more than give it back. Words really don't bother me. But for the left to complain about divisive language is laughable.

Strinket wrote:Part of me thinks they know they’ve been played for idiots but their pride won’t allow them to admit it.

So they double down on the ridiculousness. A bit like Gove today.

Cronus wrote:Sinister? Oh please, get some perspective. Have you seen the footage outside Cummings' home this last week? The screeching mob? The pack of paps? The abuse? The threats? All with a 4 year old in the home? That's what I call sinister, not a magazine article. I have no truck with the article avoiding any mention of Durham. But then I'm sure you find the behaviour of the street mob acceptable - it's Dominic Cummings, after all, eh? He's a Brexiteer, he looks a bit dodgy. It's ok if it's one of the enemy, yes? Have a giggle over it, yes?

You say Kinnock and Jenrick "presumably" visited their parents with shopping supplies. You don't know that. You openly presume that. Their stories proffered that excuse and as it happens I agree it's fair enough to accept them as entirely reasonable. Interestingly though, you accept their stories on blind faith, but not Cummings. I wonder why.

What about Tahir Ali? Neil Ferguson? Catherine Calderwood? Other such as Kyle Walker? What about Wizeb, who has boasted he broke lockdown laws at least a few times for some rancid barmaid. You and the rest remain curiously silent on this despite responding to a post - in fact I've made several posts - calling you all out. Yet a man takes his family into isolation and you're in a rabid hysteria. I wonder why.

Hypocrites. All of you. You, wrencat, pimpernell, willzay, jukesays whoever else - until you condemn all those I've named and everyone else doing as they please including crowds on beaches and in parks, you're nothing more than the worst kind of hypocrites.

Let's play a game. Pretend you're in this situation:
A global pandemic is spreading fast, a new unknown virus.
Your wife becomes ill. Most of your colleagues are ill or absent. Your boss is ill. You're probably infected.
Your child is 4. You begin to think about what would happen if you both and were incapacitated, given the speed with which CV19 can hit.
You're lucky enough to have a family estate with a separate house perfect to isolate in, and with family around to care for your child if necessary.

As it happens I made similar plans back in March for if my wife and I became ill. It would require one of us travelling some distance to my cousin's house to drop my child off with her. Is that unacceptable? Yep, the rules permit exceptions in cases of childcare concerns for precisely reasons such as this - accept it, give over crying, it's pathetic.

If any of you say the better option would be for him to stay in London and potentially end up handing his child over to someone outside the family, you're lying.

However. while the rationale for taking his family to Durham is reasonable - I agree, the trip to Barnard Castle is a stretch of the imagination and he should have held his hands up and apologised. Clearly a trip out. No excuses there. Admit it, say sorry and move on. But unless you're demanding the resignation of everyone caught outdoors at that time, you're a hypocrite. And you aren't, so yes, you're a hypocrite.

Several days on and the media are increasingly furious that their target - who they've always despised - is still defying them. I'm enjoying every moment. Cummings may yet go, but the frustration on the left is wonderful.

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:I am sorry but I owe Cronus an apology because I couldn’t find his post denigrating the Mail for their false allegation that the leader of the opposition arranged for a photo opportunity during the Thursday night clap for the NHS. I am sure he/she will be able to produce their post condemning the right wing media.

Cronus wrote:Twatter is growing on me.

Cronus wrote:Well today has been interesting. Some posters I hoped might offer decent replies failed entirely. Others I knew could only provide the usual guff rose reliably to the occasion.

Mild Rover and King Street, at least you responded somewhat to some of the points made to you. The rest - pathetic. Giddy with the media maelstrom you repeat the hype with apparently zero capability for independent thought, or - even allowing for a dubious trip to Barnard Castle - zero empathy for the human aspect of a scared family with a young child, infected with a largely unknown virus. Wrencat - very disappointed.

And not a single one of you - again - have the cojones to condemn anyone else caught breaking (or boasting of breaking) lockdown, nor the mob harassing a family home. Hypocrites. Cowards.

Where's your vilification of Ian Blackford, for example, who, 3 days after lockdown travelled 600 miles home from London for no other reason than...errrmmm...and apparently went into isolation, but who then posted a pic on the way to an interview only 11 days into his, erm, "isolation". I'm sure you're all outraged!

Quite the backlash going on in case you've missed it. Twatter is growing on me. #mediascum