Post subject: Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead...
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:26 pm
Sal Paradise
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Joined: Feb 27 2002 Posts: 18060 Location: On the road
El Barbudo wrote:Sorry but that's a simplistic view.
It only takes a shift of 30% of trade from the independent to the supermarket to finish off the independent shop because that's his margin wiped out. So, whilst potentially 70% of shoppers in a locale (let's just say a majority) might prefer the small independents, even if they stay loyal the independents still go bust.
No supermarket has an absolute monopoly but the power intrinsic in their sheer size means they have the same advantage over an independent as if they did have a monopoly. Virtually the only ones who can compete in those circumstances are other supermarket chains ... and starting a supermarket chain from small beginnings these days is well-nigh impossible.
M&S started in 1884, Morrison's in 1889 ... they'd have no chance of the same growth if they were starting out now.
You miss the obvious point about retail - giving customers reasons to want to shop with you - don't blame the supermarkets because smaller retailers are incapable of presenting a proposition that customers deem worthy of taking up. There are still hundreds of independent food retailers what is it that they have that those who have gone out of business don't?
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Post subject: Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead...
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:27 pm
SaintsFan
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Joined: Jul 22 2008 Posts: 16170 Location: Somewhere other than here
Kosh wrote:Her policies were the root cause of our housing crisis & benefits crisis just for starters.
I disagree. She actually introduced benefits during her period in power and the right to buy was genius: it enabled people who had lived in their council houses for yonks to actually own what they had almost paid for anyway in rent at a further discount price. The take up was substantial. People take pride in what they own.
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Post subject: Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead...
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:31 pm
Rock God X
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SaintsFan wrote:I disagree. She actually introduced benefits during her period in power and the right to buy was genius: it enabled people who had lived in their council houses for yonks to actually own what they had almost paid for anyway in rent at a further discount price. The take up was substantial. People take pride in what they own.
All of which would have been quite laudable if she'd allowed the proceeds to be reinvested in new, affordable social housing. But she didn't, for purely ideological reasons. And now there's a massive shortage of affordable housing.
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Post subject: Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead...
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:33 pm
duke street 10
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Joined: Oct 25 2009 Posts: 1918
SaintsFan wrote:I disagree. She actually introduced benefits during her period in power and the right to buy was genius: it enabled people who had lived in their council houses for yonks to actually own what they had almost paid for anyway in rent at a further discount price. The take up was substantial. People take pride in what they own.
The irony of it was a fair few miners bought their council houses...with their redundancy payoff.
Personally couldn't stand the women...Ripped my community part. Had the Falklands war hadn't happened she probably wouldn't have got a second term.
Rock God X wrote:All of which would have been quite laudable if she'd allowed the proceeds to be reinvested in new, affordable social housing. But she didn't, for purely ideological reasons. And now there's a massive shortage of affordable housing.
Well said
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Post subject: Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead...
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:38 pm
Durham Giant
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Joined: May 07 2007 Posts: 12488 Location: Durham
SaintsFan wrote:I disagree. She actually introduced benefits during her period in power and the right to buy was genius: it enabled people who had lived in their council houses for yonks to actually own what they had almost paid for anyway in rent at a further discount price. The take up was substantial. People take pride in what they own.
And by legislating so that Local Authorities could not use the money from council house sales to build more council houses contributed massively to lack of affordable and social housing we see now.
The net result is that Osborne is taxing spare bedrooms to penalise people who live in council housing because there is not enough council housing to go around.
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Post subject: Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead...
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:39 pm
cod'ead
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Joined: May 25 2002 Posts: 37704 Location: Zummerzet, where the zoider apples grow
SaintsFan wrote:When she took over we were labelled the 'sick man of Europe' and we had experienced the 'winter of discontent' when rubbish piled up on the streets and the dead were left unburied. She saved us from subsequent years of that kind of unelected union domination which was crucifying our country.
Do you honestly believe that only happened in 1979?
It happens every winter, my mate died in hospital on 9th March, he was buried on 2nd April. He died in hospital of major organ failure, the PM was completed within two days. The delay in burial was simply down to the fact that more people die in winter than the system can cope with.
As for rubbish piling up in the streets, take a look at Birmingham after the last snows, it took nearly three weeks to clear the black bags
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Post subject: Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead...
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:41 pm
SmokeyTA
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Joined: May 24 2006 Posts: 22777
Sal Paradise wrote:You miss the obvious point about retail - giving customers reasons to want to shop with you - don't blame the supermarkets because smaller retailers are incapable of presenting a proposition that customers deem worthy of taking up. There are still hundreds of independent food retailers what is it that they have that those who have gone out of business don't?
Sal Paradise wrote:You miss the obvious point about retail - giving customers reasons to want to shop with you - don't blame the supermarkets because smaller retailers are incapable of presenting a proposition that customers deem worthy of taking up. There are still hundreds of independent food retailers what is it that they have that those who have gone out of business don't?
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