Strange.

Anyhow - I tend to fall into the camp that thinks (hopes?) that AI can develop to operate collaboratively with humans; and I'm not convinced that it relies entirely on a total understanding of human intelligence - since machine learning works entirely differently to how we learn.

The unfortunate thing with a discussion like this, when it lands in the public sphere, is that the phenomenon of bad science almost always infects the discussion; for newspaper editors who don't understand the science, and probably don't want to, AI is not interesting unless you can include a picture of The Terminator, and spout prophecies of doom about the rise of the machines. As is often the case in mainstream media, most conversations are framed within a black and white logical fallacy, wherein the ongoing advancement of AI is either wholly good or wholly bad - and we don't get a chance to hear experts talk around it in a nuanced way.

I can already see the Daily Express headline. Nostradamus made THIS prediction - AI is coming for YOUR JOBS

Pretty much - followed by a 4 minute TV debate, in which an expert AI scientist is opposed by a man in combat trousers and a tinfoil skullcap, who believes that mobile phones make you sterile, and Robot Wars is a secret training camp for our mechanical overlords.

What has happened to the hole in the ozone - I don't hear anything about this - scientists never stop looking for new stuff to scare everyone.

Fixed it for you.

I take it you're one of Michael Gove's brave new thinkers, who are sick of experts?

Sal Paradise wrote:What has happened to the hole in the ozone - I don't hear anything about this - scientists never stop looking for new stuff to scare everyone. https://uk-air.defra.gov.uk/research/oz ... w=recovery

Sal Paradise wrote:What has happened to the hole in the ozone - I don't hear anything about this - scientists never stop looking for new stuff to scare everyone. https://uk-air.defra.gov.uk/research/oz ... w=recovery

The last person on this forum to raise doubts about damage to the ozone layer was a flat earther.

You're not the latest incarnation of Flat Stanley, are you?

I never said it didn't exist - all I am saying is I don't hear any talk of it anymore. This planet has survived for billions of years - it has managed meteor strikes, ice ages, plate movements etc.

All you worshippers of princess Greta are akin to Flat Stanley - the idea that this planet wont survive another 50 years is a delusional thought. I hope your knees are not hurting that much.

That's because back in the halcyon days of the 80's, before the post-truth era and when scientists were actually listened to and respected, action was taken, which has largely resolved the problem:



And your comments about Greta Thunberg are quite telling - instead of learning from history, when the combined efforts of many countries to tackle an environmental crisis actually worked, people like you would rather attack a 16 year old girl and deny the reality of the situation and the scientific consensus, because somehow, caring about the planet we all inhabit has become a left/right issue, rather than an issue that has an impact on everyone.

Strange times.

You could be related to my friend from East Hull.
In relation to how long the planet has been turning, humans havent been around for very long at all but, we do appear to be bleeding the planet of most of it's natural resources and warming the place up, although some believe that the warming of the oceans is just part of the natural cycle of events.
Tbf, we are trusting the scientists, who, at best are looking only at the last couple of hundred years but, that could mean that things are even worse than some of the predictions.
The easy way is to do like Trump and just carry on regardless - burning fossil fuels and just disregard the science.
However, I dont have him down as any kind of decent scientist and his advice may not be the best on offer so, maybe we should hedge our bets a little.