I'm not suggesting anyone is a liar, just giving a one-sided and distorted view.



Wow, portacabins hey, way worse than being told not to open a business.
LOCOG and the councils can suggest what ever they want, and I've no doubt they have, but I also doubt "they" have ordered anyone to close up shop.

Reducing the number of vehicles in London has been done with the agreement of service providers, if they wanted they could have as many vehicles on the streets of London as they wished, there is nothing in the Games legislation or the London Local Authorities act that allows anyone to prevent them.

Lots of I've heards and third party quotes, not that many facts though.

Durham Giant wrote:When i find a nice one of Liebknecht or Luxembourg i wil be happy to change it ( assuming i have the technical ability to do it.) Perhaps if you made the tiniest of efforts ... http://www.google.com/search?client=saf ... 1AWfw4D4Cw http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&clie ... 0QX564HYBQ Durham Giant wrote:But as you mention my avatar now everytime you challenge one of my posts ... No. I don't. I do, however, find it amusing that you witter on about brands or, as previously, about poppies – ie the symbols that people choose to wear – and then you label yourself here with one that can be interpreted the way I have illustrated. Durham Giant wrote:I would also guess ... Indeed.

Durham Giant wrote:When i find a nice one of Liebknecht or Luxembourg i wil be happy to change it ( assuming i have the technical ability to do it.) Perhaps if you made the tiniest of efforts ... http://www.google.com/search?client=saf ... 1AWfw4D4Cw http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&clie ... 0QX564HYBQ Durham Giant wrote:But as you mention my avatar now everytime you challenge one of my posts ... No. I don't. I do, however, find it amusing that you witter on about brands or, as previously, about poppies – ie the symbols that people choose to wear – and then you label yourself here with one that can be interpreted the way I have illustrated. Durham Giant wrote:I would also guess ... Indeed.

Hardly "one-sided", given the hype, for years, about how much the economy will benefit etc.



I haven't commented on that situation – except to point out a fact about who allowed it. As it happens, apparently, they're nowhere near as bad as the Wail tried to claim. But then again, it was also claiming that the council had voted to allow the situation – when the council had never had any such vote or any involvement whatsoever in the decisions surrounding this. I know this directly from a councillor there that I happen to know.



Go back and read what I actually posted.

And they have the power to completely remove Newham Council from the equation and create the accommodation for the cleaners without any recourse to the council, planning permission or anything else. It's irrelevant whether that accommodation is good, bad or indifferent: the point here is that Locog has that power and has used it.



So deliveries outside of usual hours are 'voluntary'? Are you sure of this?

I return to the question I asked earlier: are you supportive of landlords evicting tenants in order to hike rents for the Games?

Good to see Cameroon going for gold in The Olympic Hide & Seek

Good to see Cameroon going for gold in The Olympic Hide & Seek

Yes it is, you wouldn't accept that standard of evidence in a debate, the people with the catering business will have had plenty of notice.



Where did I day that?



No. But if you are still on about that catering business that is a totally different proposition to landlords evicting tenants from their houses and flats.

I would suggest sites like Play are a very cheap source of reading material especially many books can be bought and delivered for as little as £3 - significantly less than the opportunity cost of visiting your library. Very likely the choice at Play will swamp anything your local library will offer. An example Before I go to sleep £2.79, 50 shades of grey £3.85 etc

The "opportunity cost" of visiting a local library ?

Thats your local free library, the one thats free to join and free to loan books from ?

When was the last time you went to your local free library and browsed its multitude of books for half an hour or so, have you ever been to your local free library, let alone costed up the "opportunity cost" of so doing ?

Its one thing to visit an online retailer when you know what you want, but you will never get the browsing experience of a real-life bookshelf in a virtual environment, its simply impossible to select an online book, flick it open half way through and read a couple of pages to see if its grabbing your attention during any book's "flat" phase - sure they all start off at 100mph because most people browse the first page or so to be hooked - you want to look 100 pages in to see whats going on before selecting, I was going to say "buying" but I haven't yet put my "opportunity cost" on a free library book yet.

it takes a special kind of individual to ignore all available evidence

That's because Sal obviously doesn't understand what opportunity cost means.

I would suggest a half hour of my time is worth more than the £3 it costs to get the book delivered to my door - my employer thinks so . For me I want to get into a book and the characters - reading 10 pages in the middle doesn't give me much of feel for the characters and the plot. Horses for courses I suppose.