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 Post subject: Re: Irvine Patnick RIP (rot in pieces)
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:23 pm 
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Mintball wrote:Do you have some form of objective argument on this?

Also, have you decided what the bar is for execution? How many does one have to kill, for instance? Is the manner of murder a factor?

All these things would be entirely subjective.


You would have to agree a certain type of crime - terrorism, ian huntley/Brady types on children, premeditated or repeated murder e.g. Rose West, Shipman the very serious types of murder.

I am not sure how much more objective I can be - I have stated my reasons what more do you want?






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Rock God X wrote:It doesn't matter if we only execute one innocent man every 20 years, it's still too many.

The big difference between imprisonment and execution (as I'm sure you're aware) is that one is rather more permanent than the other. Obviously it's not 'ok' to lock up an innocent man, but they can at least be released/compensated if new evidence comes to light. A dead man doesn't get a second chance.


It is so unlikely that is more a theory than a reality - and as such should not be a game stopper IMO.






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Dally wrote:Let's put that thought in a religious context.

Judaism had it's eye for an eye and still seems to via the Israeli government. It just causes strife.

Christianity was a refinement and turning the other cheek proved a successful stratagy.

Islam then saw the weakness in Christianity and its followers are content to take the sword to followers of other religions. Fortunately, the Christian world has tended to have been more advanced and powerful for a number of centuries now and has previously repelled the march of Islam. Followers of Islam are now embedded in many traditionally Christian countries, Islam is in one of its periodic expansionist phases, muddled Liberal thinking thinking pervades many European country's with ensuing moral decline, several Muslim countries are extremely rich. The net effects are likely to be the Islamic world taking advantage of the weaknesses in both Christianity and our moral decline.


Mostly accurate. Furthermore, experience shows that Muslims prefer to deal with things in-house rather than involve the state.

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kirkstaller wrote:Mostly accurate. Furthermore, experience shows that Muslims prefer to deal with things in-house rather than involve the state.


Are you agreeing that Islam will supersede Christianity?

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kirkstaller wrote:If it doesn't deter people, or cost less, so why even consider capital punishment?

In any case, have you noticed when people tend to talk about this issue? It's normally after some heinous crime such as a school shooting or child killing (or in the case of the OP, someone who was less than honest :roll:). It's an emotive issue, I understand that. But the emotion we are talking about is hate. Pure hatred at those who commit such crimes. Hatred is not the way, vengeance can do no good.




Leviticus 20:9-16

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9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.

10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

11 And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

12 And if a man lie with his daughter in law, both of them shall surely be put to death: they have wrought confusion; their blood shall be upon them.

13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

14 And if a man take a wife and her mother, it is wickedness: they shall be burnt with fire, both he and they; that there be no wickedness among you.

15 And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast.

16 And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.



Fair enough :D

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Dally wrote:Are you agreeing that Islam will supersede Christianity?


It is the wish of the liberal intelligentisia.

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 Post subject: Re: Irvine Patnick RIP (rot in pieces)
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Rooster Booster wrote:Leviticus 20:9-16

King James Version (KJV)



Is that from pre-Christian days?

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Rooster Booster wrote:Leviticus 20:9-16

King James Version (KJV)

9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.

10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

11 And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

12 And if a man lie with his daughter in law, both of them shall surely be put to death: they have wrought confusion; their blood shall be upon them.

13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

14 And if a man take a wife and her mother, it is wickedness: they shall be burnt with fire, both he and they; that there be no wickedness among you.

15 And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast.

16 And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.



Fair enough :D


Does every thread have to turn into this?

For the record, you are quoting Mosaic law.

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kirkstaller wrote:It is the wish of the liberal intelligentisia.


But they are thick. So they will be easily overcome.

Ignoring that particular thought you have had, what is your view?

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Dally wrote:Is that from pre-Christian days?


Probably. 8)

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