Yet the Jews are still awaiting the messiah, aren't they?

In the storybooks he practiced the Jewish religion, yes, but he was born in what is now (or should be) Palestine. He's an Arab.

Snigger.

The Jews are blinded by religion. They still think they can earn their way into Heaven.

At the time they were Jewish lands, not Arab. Your ignorance of history is shocking.

By the way, it is possible for Jews to be born in Arabia.

When really the only way is to be visited by the disembodied voice of one incarnation of 'God', followed by a face to face meeting with another incarnation, who is sporting white skin and a leather tool belt.

Ok, to be totally clear: the 'Jesus' who popped in for a chat had what colour skin?

On the contrary, I a, very interested. Why do you think I reply to some of your posts, if I am not interested?


No, I'm here to discuss things with random people. Which may include a quota of mockery, 'tis true, on occasion, but that doesn't mean that when I ask a serious question, you can avoid it by pleading mockery. I don't know where you met Jesus. It could have been McDonalds. I have seen carpenters in there before, and Jesus was a man of the people, so why not? I often go to McDonalds myself. Why would I mock anyone for going to McDonalds?

But, if you don't want to tell us where you had your personal meeting with JC (which is of course the point) then carry on with your polished avoidance techniques.


You see, there you go again. I bet that tomorrow you'll be preaching on to some other unfortunate souls that you've now got the hat-trick, you bagged Satan. What a start to the new year. Not personally, though, but you saw Satan's words on 't'internet, and he spake directly to thee, which is as good as hearing voices., if not better. And this is a meeting with Satan just as much as you ever had a meeting with god or Jesus. You just think I'm Satan, but it's a delusion, same as your god and Jesus meeting delusions.

There's no evidence he was a carpenter at all. The Greek word to describe Jesus and Joseph is 'tekton' which means more of a general 'craftsman', just as we might say someone is a 'builder' today.

If he was indeed a carpenter you would expect some reference to his craft in his teachings, but instead he repeatedly talks about stone-working. Further, wood was not a common commodity in such a dry, arid landscape as 1st-century Galilee. All buildings would have have been constructed of stone and mud, with thatched roofs. Carpenters would have been few and far between. More likely he was a stone labourer.

That's if you choose to believe the bible at all. A collection of ancient tales and myths and four contradictory canonical gospels thrown together by various religious figures at the Councils of Nicea according to what suited the agenda of the day, with an unknown number of gospels cast aside and deemed unworthy, at least one because it referred to Mary Magdalene as Jesus' favourite disciple, and another because it described Judas as the only disciple to truly understand his teachings and described his 'betrayal' as in accordance with Jesus' wishes. Of course, both these gospels contradicted the agenda of the early Christian church and were banished. The word of God? Indeed.

I have no problem with people having faith, but don't choose blind, unquestioning faith. There's plenty to question about the bible and Christianity, not the least of which is how the bible was put together, and how Christianity has been twisted and manipulated to nothing that would resemble anything a historical Jesus would have intended.

On another note, what's your view of the Nativity tale? A literal, historical account?