Joined: Jun 19 2002 Posts: 14970 Location: Campaigning for a deep attacking line
Mintball wrote:That's nonsense! Next thing you'll be claiming is that debt rose under decent, right-wing conservative administrations in the US - and that would obviously be ridiculous!
Oh ...
What? A right-wing administration? In America? A Republican? Recklessly handing out tax breaks to rich people whilst spending huge amounts of money on a few wars? I don't, nay, I won't believe it. It was Tony Blair, Gordon Brown & Ed Milliband's fault. It must have been. A right-wing, conservative called Dave told me. I believe everything he tells me. Damn those Europeans for causing the British economy to go down the krapper.
Him wrote: I don't, nay, I won't believe it. It was Tony Blair, Gordon Brown & Ed Milliband's fault. It must have been. A right-wing, conservative called Dave told me. I believe everything he tells me.
He told me the same thing too so it must be true.
This CURRENT crisis is due to the rest of the world though and is totally unconnected with what happened when Labour caused the world to stop turning in '07 - Dave told me that too.
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TrinityIHC wrote: ... Maybe if the Labour government hadn't been quite so free and easy with taxpayers money in the first place, we wouldn't be in quite the pickle we find ourselves in at present.
In the lead up to the election, a lot of people fell for that line but the pickle is actually the result of certain bankers gambling with money they didn't have. The Labour government did the right thing at the right time by recapitalising British banks ... and Ozzie still hasn't said what he would have done.
Everyone knew (including Labour, Darling did say so) that spending would have to be reduced. The question was, by how much and over what period of time to do it. Dave and co., convinced enough people that it needed to be done fast (despite the high probability of utterly knackering growth in the process, as we are now seeing and as many predicted). He and his millionaire cabinet are untouched by all this (but are of course, all in it together) and are using the excuse of debt reduction to dismantle any part of the welfare state that they can. e.g. The NHS, schools, the safety net of benefits (except, of course, those that the middle class voters get, like child benefit) whilst raising VAT (which hits the poorest smack in the area of necessities but the rich only in losing a tiny amount of luxury, and then only perhaps ... incidentally, just look back at the history of VAT, who introduced it and who has always raised it? I'll give you a clue, never Labour) ... and all while Dave and co. are positing ideas like reducing the 50p top rate of tax and doing bvgger-all about offshoring of profits to avoid tax (e.g. Vodaphone, Tesco etc ... and, let's not forget, Virgin, who have just bought a chain of banks from us, nice and cheap).
But we must remember that it's all Labour's fault for running up a debt lower than the tories had.
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Anakin Skywalker wrote:In incase anyone is interested I have just recived an E-Mail from Asda saying that I have got a christmas job (29th Nov to 2nd Jan). That will put paid to my mortgage insurance claim (3 months left) as it is fixed term work which isn't covered. I have been told by folks I know that work there the chances of being kept on are low but it is a chance I am willing to take as the thought of another year signing on doesn't bear thinking about. Still Standee says I dont want to work so....
Great news, chuffed for you mate.
Hope it goes well and try not to swear too much.
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cod'ead wrote:You're leaving the discussion because you know full well that you are going to get your arse handed to you on a plate. Exactly as you have done, everytime you've trotted out the same piss-poor mantra
not at all, I left the discussion because the Sin Bin is full of people who blame everything on someone else and take no personal responsibility for their position, I don't agree with a lot of what the ConLib government are doing, but I didn't see much positive action from Labour during their tenure either, politicians are all idealists, does anyone really think Ed Milliband genuinely cares, it's an ego trip for all of them.
I'm glad Annakin has a job over the Christmas period, hopefully it will develop into something longer term.
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Standee wrote:not at all, I left the discussion because the Sin Bin is full of people who blame everything on someone else and take no personal responsibility for their position, I don't agree with a lot of what the ConLib government are doing, but I didn't see much positive action from Labour during their tenure either, politicians are all idealists, does anyone really think Ed Milliband genuinely cares, it's an ego trip for all of them.
I'm glad Annakin has a job over the Christmas period, hopefully it will develop into something longer term.
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