WIZEB wrote:He wasn't interested in that cr@p. He was too busy writing himself into history fighting his Christian crusades. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/06/02/tony-blair-there-is-a-problem-within-islam_n_3373971.html?utm_hp_ref=uk He's correct. You cannot ignore reality. You must face the world as it is not as you think it ought to be. The fact is there is alot of Muslim fanaticism. That will not go away by appeasement. Ultimately, it will either have to be crushed or crush our way of life. Bush and Blair were always right on this.

WIZEB wrote:He wasn't interested in that cr@p. He was too busy writing himself into history fighting his Christian crusades. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/06/02/tony-blair-there-is-a-problem-within-islam_n_3373971.html?utm_hp_ref=uk He's correct. You cannot ignore reality. You must face the world as it is not as you think it ought to be. The fact is there is alot of Muslim fanaticism. That will not go away by appeasement. Ultimately, it will either have to be crushed or crush our way of life. Bush and Blair were always right on this.

Does "independent means" equate to not being greedy? No.
Does "independent means" equate to best person for the job? No.
Does "independent means" exclude good people from the job? Very probably.

"No axes to grind"? ... yeah, right .... except for the major one of protecting the status quo in terms of their status and wealth.

"Long British family histories"? ... You can curtsey to the peerage if you wish but I don't score people higher just because their great great great great granny shagged the king or because they belong to a privileged remote elite or according to how long their families have owned stolen land.

Ah, Bush, that well-known non-religious non-fanatic.
The truth is that it's you Abrahamic god-botherers who get us into these crises.
Having a God is no substitute for having a conscience.

"You"?

Anyway, what is this conscience of which you speak? Does it entail letting people wanting to detroy your nation just go ahead?

So, back to the question - is the removal of hereditary peers likely to improve the functioning of the Lords and oour democracy or not?

Sorry if I insulted you by assuming you were a Christian.


Spoken like a Christian puzzled by the notion.


The nation includes Muslims, the overwhelming majority of whom have no terrorist intent.

Hereditary seats are, by definition, undemocratic.
Please engage brain before asking further questions.

How do you propose to crush this Islamic fanaticism then ?

What about a nice old fashioned crusade?

If you did this I am afraid it would only serve to drive the likes of Cameron, Osbourne, Maude etc out of politics altogether.

................ oh, wait a minute