Joined: May 25 2002 Posts: 37704 Location: Zummerzet, where the zoider apples grow
Sal Paradise wrote:Good - why should those on NMW support the work shy? The genuine mentally and physically disabled should be supported correctly but the lazy in society are a drain and should be dealt as such
How many "lazy" are there in society?
With more than five unemployed for every vacancy, how do you suggest they get jobs to prove that they really are not lazy?
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El Barbudo wrote:... and ... alternative question ... how do you know which of the unemployed are shirking?
The Chancellory has employed a load of civil servant bedroon curtaineers. They'll be down a street near you shortly with clipboards in hand. If you haven't got yours open by 7am you're bound to be a shirkster. Lazy bastads
Joined: May 10 2002 Posts: 47951 Location: Die Metropole
WIZEB wrote:The Chancellory has employed a load of civil servant bedroon curtaineers. They'll be down a street near you shortly with clipboards in hand. If you haven't got yours open by 7am you're bound to be a shirkster. Lazy bastads
This one really did do my head in.
I'm out at work most days – usually leaving home at between 7 and 7.30am. I very rarely have the blinds in the two windows that face onto the main road, at ground level, open then or even later in the day when I get home – simply for reasons of privacy. I'm awake/up by 7am most weekends too, but the bedroom blinds are almost never opened at all.
It's the assumption that's so extraordinary – and the unquestioning manner in which so many people accept these utterly bonkers statements.
Beyond that, though, the idea that one should do things around one's own home on the basis of how others, who wouldn't know you from Adam, is the most extraordinary bit of interference.
Ands that's without mentioning that Pickles and his mates don't seem to factor in that some people actually work at night and sleep by day.
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Joined: Nov 23 2009 Posts: 12749 Location: The Hamptons of East Yorkshire
Mintball wrote:This one really did do my head in.
I'm out at work most days – usually leaving home at between 7 and 7.30am. I very rarely have the blinds in the two windows that face onto the main road, at ground level, open then or even later in the day when I get home – simply for reasons of privacy. I'm awake/up by 7am most weekends too, but the bedroom blinds are almost never opened at all.
It's the assumption that's so extraordinary – and the unquestioning manner in which so many people accept these utterly bonkers statements.
Beyond that, though, the idea that one should do things around one's own home on the basis of how others, who wouldn't know you from Adam, is the most extraordinary bit of interference.
Ands that's without mentioning that Pickles and his mates don't seem to factor in that some people actually work at night and sleep by day.
I'm as exasperated as you Minty. The hours I've spent with my binoculars trained on your windows trying to get a peep of you in that slinky negligee.
Joined: Dec 22 2001 Posts: 14395 Location: Chester
IDS is an evil tw @t. His rhetoric of "fairness" is so transparent I just do not understand why it is isn't challenged.
His constant "Why is it fair that some people on benefits end up with more than those working" does my head.
It is the wrong question and he knows it. The question is why does employment not lift people out of poverty or off benefits given (pensioners apart) most people on benefits are actually working? It's low wages and high rents that are the problem. As well as people who would gladly work not being able to find any.
It is deliberately divisive and sadly as witnessed in this thread it works.
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I'm out at work most days – usually leaving home at between 7 and 7.30am. I very rarely have the blinds in the two windows that face onto the main road, at ground level, open then or even later in the day when I get home – simply for reasons of privacy. I'm awake/up by 7am most weekends too, but the bedroom blinds are almost never opened at all.
It's the assumption that's so extraordinary – and the unquestioning manner in which so many people accept these utterly bonkers statements.
Beyond that, though, the idea that one should do things around one's own home on the basis of how others, who wouldn't know you from Adam, is the most extraordinary bit of interference.
Ands that's without mentioning that Pickles and his mates don't seem to factor in that some people actually work at night and sleep by day.
You've over-thought that.
The point is that Pickles is a 2@. Simple.
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Joined: Feb 27 2002 Posts: 18060 Location: On the road
Dead Man Walking wrote:How would you deal with them ?
Everyone who is able should be making a contribution for the monies they receive - there are plenty of public areas that could be enhanced by some physical effort.
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Joined: Feb 27 2002 Posts: 18060 Location: On the road
cod'ead wrote:How many "lazy" are there in society?
With more than five unemployed for every vacancy, how do you suggest they get jobs to prove that they really are not lazy?
Maybe you could explain how all the bods from eastern Europe manage to come here and find work in an economy with no jobs!!
Whilst you are at it you could also explain - given you consider yourself an expert in all matters - how in an economy with less physical jobs and huge advances in medical/drug science we have increasing numbers of those claiming disability?
Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.
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