Joined: Feb 25 2004 Posts: 2874 Location: Sometimes Workington, Sometimes Warrington, Often on the M6
JerryChicken wrote:Have abandoned a 55 plate Peugeot 307s 1.6 petrol in a hotel car park where it simply refuses to start, it had been run on a 70 mile journey to the hotel, ran for ten minutes idling and then switched off for five minutes, tried to turn it back on and the ignition just clicks, warning displays illuminate then extinguish as normal, no messages on the info panel but the Emission Control System warning light stays on.
I had something like this on a diesel 307 a few years back and I seem to remember it was expensive, but that was the diesel with expensive additive, this is a petrol version.
Any clues before I ring my friendly Peugeot dealer and tell my friendly salesman what I think of him ?
A mate of mine had the same problem on his Pug and it turned out to be something called a lamba sensor (something like that) had failed which caused the ECS to shut down and so the car wouldn't start.
Joined: Jun 06 2010 Posts: 1585 Location: on the naughty step
A bit late I know , but . Put the keys in your pocket ....unclip the quick-release terminal on the battery . Leave it half an hour . Clip it back on . Lock twice using keyfob . . Leave 5 mins . Then unlock with keyfob and start it and go on your merry way .
BaldRick wrote:A bit late I know , but . Put the keys in your pocket ....unclip the quick-release terminal on the battery . Leave it half an hour . Clip it back on . Lock twice using keyfob . . Leave 5 mins . Then unlock with keyfob and start it and go on your merry way .
Thanks for that, I read something similar on a Peugeot owners web site but didn't understand a word of it, thats a lot simpler, I'm going up there this afternoon to speak nicely to it so I'll try that and if all else fails how much do you charge for a recovery from Otly to LS16 ?
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I think my next car might be an old Mk 1 Cortina or possibly an old Landy. With all the bollox surrounding new vehicles, they're simply far too expensive to repair, should a problem occur. Earlier this year I had a soft recall on my Passat, all four injectors and the injector loom were replaced - cost? £3k+. All done under warranty but in five years time, that will be more than the value of the car. Similarly, I replaced a parking brake motor after it burned out in icy conditions, that alone was £250. At least with the Cortina or Land Rover anything I couldn't fix could be sorted by the local blacksmith.
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Pft! Well its not the battery although the Peugeot mechanics money was on that.
The good news is that it probably isn't the emission control gizmo as that warning light will stay illuminated simply because the engine isn't running yet.
My guess now is the starter motor because having stood and listened with the bonnet up tonight it does definitely click when the ignition is turned, but nothing else - hit it with a hammer for good luck but that did naff all to fix it.
So its still at the hotel, but the good news is that I called at the Peugeot dealer this lunchtime and they have a car in there that I'd quite fancy, so I'm currently twisting the arm of the salesman who has to date sold me about ten cars, to get me out of this motionless car into the one on his forecourt - and of course they are desperate to sell at the moment, watch this space, tomorrow is when he has to come up with a deal for me.
So tomorrow its back on the bike for me.
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Another thought strikes me as an outside bet. our previous Citroen (another french car) used to cut out sometimes - even when driving, which was dangerous. It would sometimes restart after a few minutes, other times hours later. It seemed dead and wouldn't turnover. The garage's diagnostic computer couldn't find anything wrong after several visits (when still under warranty). After about 3 years the fault was found - fuel relay as I recall which was a simple fix and it never went wrong again. I thing we'd even suggested that to them but they reckoned not until they "discovered" it themselves about 18 months later. It was awful - brand new car that could stop in the most awkward of places.
Joined: Jun 06 2010 Posts: 1585 Location: on the naughty step
If all you are getting is a click from the starter it might be worth going 'old school' on it . Do the dash lights dim when you turn the key ? It they do then it is lkely to be a starter motor problem .If not then clip a jumplead from negative side of battery to the engine block/lifting eye/exhaust manifold etc , and try again .
Called local garage out for a recovery or fix-on-the-spot, guy spent half an hour giving it all a good go over.
Blown 20amp fuse.
Could still be an indicator of an electrical problem but as long as it keeps starting for as long as it takes to get it traded in then I'm happy, total cost of call out £37 + vat.
I provided the fuse.
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