Post subject: Re: The nature of the Judeo-Christian god
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:35 pm
kirkstaller
Player Coach
Joined: Nov 29 2008 Posts: 1318 Location: Kirkstall, Leeds
Him wrote:But what about those who have been told something different yet have no idea about Christianity? They aren't choosing to ignore god since they do not know he exists, they are only told about other gods. What happens to them? They might go through their entire life not knowing of the existence of the Christian God. If they don't know he exists how can they place their trust in them?
If they trust in God and recognise their shortcomings, the Bible indicates that God will treat them fairly.
Post subject: Re: The nature of the Judeo-Christian god
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:57 pm
kirkstaller
Player Coach
Joined: Nov 29 2008 Posts: 1318 Location: Kirkstall, Leeds
Him wrote:How can they trust in something they don't know exists and have never been told about?
They don't need to be told about God to know he exists.
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.
Post subject: Re: The nature of the Judeo-Christian god
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:11 pm
Him
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Joined: Jun 19 2002 Posts: 14970 Location: Campaigning for a deep attacking line
kirkstaller wrote:They don't need to be told about God to know he exists.
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.
Romans 1:20
No that's "evidence" that a god exists, not the Christian God. If they've been told from early age it was a different god and not told anything about Christianity then they won't know the Christian God exists and will naturally believe that the earth was created by the different god. So how can they place their trust in a god they don't know exists?
Post subject: Re: The nature of the Judeo-Christian god
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:17 pm
Dally
International Chairman
Joined: Dec 22 2001 Posts: 14845
Mintball wrote:Why would anyone want to worship a god that created a worm that lives by eating the eyes of children?
1. Did He? Does Genesis really mean that?
2. If He did, did He not make man with the capacity to overcome such things? Perhaps if people like you concentrated on goodness rather than sniping we'd get to overcome our ills that much more quickly? Much easier to complain and mock than be humble, decent and altruistic, hey?
Post subject: Re: The nature of the Judeo-Christian god
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:18 pm
kirkstaller
Player Coach
Joined: Nov 29 2008 Posts: 1318 Location: Kirkstall, Leeds
Him wrote:No that's "evidence" that a god exists, not the Christian God. If they've been told from early age it was a different god and not told anything about Christianity then they won't know the Christian God exists and will naturally believe that the earth was created by the different god. So how can they place their trust in a god they don't know exists?
The 'Christian God' is not the 'Christian God', he is simply God.
Most major world religions mention God and Jesus in their teachings. For example, someone in a strict Islamic family in Pakistan will have heard about Jesus, and no doubt what Christians believe, but has chosen to reject it.
I feel sorry for such people but I can but share the good news.
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Post subject: Re: The nature of the Judeo-Christian god
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:29 pm
Him
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Joined: Jun 19 2002 Posts: 14970 Location: Campaigning for a deep attacking line
kirkstaller wrote:The 'Christian God' is not the 'Christian God', he is simply God.
Most major world religions mention God and Jesus in their teachings. For example, someone in a strict Islamic family in Pakistan has heard about Jesus, and no doubt what Christians believe, but has chosen to reject it.
I feel sorry for such people but I can but share the good news.
Not to some Amazonian tribe or places that do not teach the major religions. What happens to these people? They have never been taught about God, they believe in a different God. How can they place their trust in a god they don't know exists?
Post subject: Re: The nature of the Judeo-Christian god
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:37 pm
kirkstaller
Player Coach
Joined: Nov 29 2008 Posts: 1318 Location: Kirkstall, Leeds
Him wrote:Not to some Amazonian tribe or places that do not teach the major religions. What happens to these people? They have never been taught about God, they believe in a different God. How can they place their trust in a god they don't know exists?
If they place their faith in the one who created the world, I believe they will be treated justly. The Bible tells us that we have a creator and that creation is evident through the natural world.
Post subject: Re: The nature of the Judeo-Christian god
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:38 pm
Sheldon
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Joined: Mar 26 2006 Posts: 22320 Location: York
Would you always take scripture over science?
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