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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 1:20 pm 
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Can Labour put up any credible, electable leader from its MPs? If so, who? Will they need to parachute someone into a constituency to have any credibility?

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 4:03 pm 
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Chuka Umunna for me. Modern, Obama-eque and a far more presentable person than Milliband.

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Andy Burnham. Anyone but Yvette Cooper, too close to Balls






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Saddened! wrote:Chuka Umunna for me. Modern, Obama-eque and a far more presentable person than Milliband.


Unelectable at the present time, IMO.

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Dally wrote:Unelectable at the present time, IMO.


Why?

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rover49 wrote:Andy Burnham. Anyone but Yvette Cooper, too close to Balls

Burnham I like but I am not sure he is forceful enough. Yvette Cooper would be a joke candidate. If Ed M did not look like a leader (he didn't!) then she certainly does not!

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 Post subject: Re: The Labour party leadership thread
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 6:32 pm 
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Sadly, IMO there are no true labour politicians anymore, and the same goes the majority of other party's.

All this talk of "aspiration" etc. is fine and dandy and the fear of losing anything is well founded. Add to that the playground notion of 'its my ball and if you don't play to my rules I'm taking it home" attitude and you get the situation we are in today.

A country scared to "think outside the box", where right and privilege are seen as ok but this cannot be permitted at the lower end of society because they may get something they don't deserve and "I" don't want to pay for it mentality.

Strange then that same attitudes are not applicable to the big spongers off the state called the monarchy.

A country where the "big bad unions" who fight for their members "aspirations" are condemned yet the other "unions" like the 1922 committee, the Nation Farmers UNION, the Freight Transport Association, the Law society, the BMA etc., etc, who have the "governments" ear and fight for their members (by the way some of these "unions" are CLOSED SHOPS!!!) are not seen as bad.

Strange isn't it.

I am a believer in you work for what you get, and that means for "daddies heirs" to take over a business/ancestry without putting the effort in is wrong, yet this is seen as normal. There are loads of businesses that have gone to the wall once the "heirs" have taken over yet the businesses had the people who could/should have taken the business forward but the system makes it difficult to give them the opportunity.

Cameron has stated his "one nation" philosophy" and then shot himself in the foot immediately by keeping IDS and Gove in the government.

The Labour need to look for a leader who aspire to be PM and also know what fairness means. That is the key to success. The tries create a divided nation but play on fear as their chief weapon. HONESTY AND TRUTH need to be the main weapons, and if that means looking inward and thinking "outside the box" then that is what the labour party need but one thing is definite, people who have only done "political study" and never been in business, care etc. are not the politicians this country needs.

We live in interesting times, and the next couple of years will be the most interesting indeed.






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I voted for Burnham for leader last time and looks like I will do so again.

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dr_feelgood wrote:I voted for Burnham for leader last time and looks like I will do so again.


Too close to the Unions

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Got to be Dianne Abbott, surely............?

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